Madison Metropolitan School District
Madison, Wisconsin

Art Rainwater, Superintendent
Minutes for Long Range Planning
October 23, 2006
Doyle Administration Building
545 West Dayton Street, Auditorium
Madison, Wisconsin

Long Range Planning Committee meeting was called to order by Chair Carol Carstensen at 6:20 p.m.

MEMBERS PRESENT: Carol Carstensen, Lawrie Kobza, Arlene Silveira




STAFF PRESENT: Sue Abplanalp, Mary Gulbrandsen, Pam Nash, Art Rainwater, Marcia Standiford, Ken Syke, Ann Wilson - Recording Secretary

1. Approval of Minutes

It was moved by Arlene Silveira and seconded by Lawrie Kobza to approve the Long Range Planning Committee minutes dated September 18, 2006. Lawrie Kobza requested that "Mr. Murphy" on the second page, under Follow-up, be changed to "Administration." The motion to approve the minutes as amended was unanimously carried.

2. Public Appearances

There were no public appearances.

3. Announcements

There were no announcements.

4. Third Friday Enrollment Counts and Districtwide Enrollment Projections

5. Enrollment Projection Methodology

(Written materials provided in advance: Memorandum from Mary Gulbrandsen dated 10/19/06 re: Long Range Planning with replacement pages for the notebook, "The Process for Long Range Facility Use and Long Range Facility Maintenance Planning." Materials distributed at the meeting: History and Forecast- all attached to the original copy of these minutes.)

Mary Gulbrandsen noted, districtwide, enrollment this year was 124 more students than last year. Enrollment had been projected to go down slightly, so the actual enrollment was about 280 students over projection. School-by-school enrollment information will be provided as soon as it is available.

Enrollment methodology has remained consistent over the last several years. Three- and five-year rolling averages are used, plus trends. There is a tendency to be conservative and to project low vs. high. Certain trends are carefully watched.


Actual numbers have been consistent with projections in growth areas.

Surprised at already crowded conditions at Chavez. More growth anticipated.

Slight decline at high school might be attributed to less international students because of uncertainties.

District has been able to handle staffing/readjustment of classrooms - most handled within the first week of school. Some surprises at the high school level (senior class at La Follette) and middle schools - all have been staffed.

Live births increasing in Madison - district receives 65-70%.

6. Socioeconomic Status by Schools

(Written material distributed at the meeting - Free and Reduced Lunch Status Percent for 3rd Friday September 2006 - attached to the original copy of these minutes.)

Art Rainwater noted all schools have gained in low-income population and this is a pattern that will continue. In the city, low-income populations are segregated into pockets in many cases. Many schools (e.g., Leopold, Mendota) are located in areas where low-income populations live and students can walk to school.

Carol Carstensen noted that some schools are close to 50% low income with full SAGE programs. Art Rainwater responded that would be the case for this school year. There was discussion noting the schools that have increased or decreased in low-income population.

7. Considerations when Redrawing Boundary Lines

In response to a question, Mary Gulbrandsen indicated the Considerations were not prioritized by task forces, but generally items 1, 6, and 7 seemed to be of most importance, closely followed by 3. Lawrie Kobza noted the thoughts of parents districtwide should be taken into consideration and may be different from the views held by members of the task forces; the committee has a responsibility to consider all viewpoints. Carol Carstensen noted the document was prepared to provide considerations for guidance and was based on practice.

Each of the considerations was reviewed.

Consideration 1:

Every attempt will be made to keep bus routes no more than 45 minutes in duration one way.

Carol Carstensen noted that bus routes are now doubled to accommodate two beginning times for elementary schools. In order to do that, the route cannot be longer than 45 minutes.


Mary Gulbrandsen will provide an update of route lengths.


Not in favor of increasing length.

Location is a choice and has repercussions. Agree with "every attempt," but might not need to be a guarantee.

Budgetary considerations; more expensive if route can't be doubled.

Consideration 2:

When redrawing boundary lines, current attendance area islands and optional areas will be reduced whenever possible and new ones will not be created.

It was determined this item has potential for being deleted.


Received least public support. Can't follow if there is support for using available space in the district. Still a good goal, but very much secondary.

Definition of "neighborhood's" school.

Consideration 3:

No student will be required to change school, as a result of boundary line changes, more than once during his/her elementary years.

This is a reasonable consideration and should continue. It is a goal to minimize disruption for students.


Sometimes a matter of what families are used to - paired schools, for example.

Consideration 4:

Grandfathering fourth and fifth grade students will be considered when boundary lines are redrawn, and every effort will be made to allow fifth graders to remain at their school.

This consideration will continue.

Considerations 5-7 will be discussed at the next meeting.

8. Dealing with Overcrowded Elementary Schools

9. Elementary Schools with Declining Enrollment

These items were not discussed due to lack of time and will be rescheduled.

10. Other Business

There was no other business.

11. Adjournment

It was moved by Arlene Silveira and seconded by Lawrie Kobza to adjourn the meeting at 7:15 p.m. Motion unanimously carried.